It is interesting how the plot twists; Alcibiades opts out praising Eros, and instead, he expresses his reverence towards Socrates. For this politician and playboy, Socrates seems as the perfect personification of Eros, and therefore, deserves the most cordial and sincere admiration. Alcibiades begins his speech with praising Socrates’ skills of a true philosopher and a distinguished speaker. However, Socrates’ reproach for others’ unjustified praise cannot be applied to Alcibiades’ one. “…I’m going to tell you the whole truth…” (217b), says Alcibiades. Then Alcibiades states that even the world knows many other philosophers, none of them can be compared to Socrates. Not only Socrates’ speeches make people listen to them, but also they motivate people to think about and reflect on their lives, to become better versions of themselves. …show more content…
For this, Alcibiades admires Socrates. Socrates speech cannot leave him unmoved; conversely, he realizes that the life he lives is not worth living. Even though perception of this hurts him and he tries to avoid hearing Socrates’ teaching, he still cannot deny that Socrates does his job as nobody else. He feels ashamed and “embarrassed” (216c). Nevertheless, why? Because Alcibiades loves Socrates, respects his opinion and ideas, and cherishes the friendship with him. Were those words spoken by a stranger, they would not affect him; however, since they belong to Socrates they could not have a more compelling effect. He mentions that Socrates is “the only man who can appeal to” his “better nature” (216b). I think that it is very important for Alcibiades to know that person whom he admires and reveres can see something promising, something good in
Both Frederick Douglass and Socrates prioritize the True over their reputations. Willing to admit his weaknesses, Douglass’s main goal is to seek the True even if it means leaving his reputation undefended. He begins his speech by having a “distrust of [his] ability” and claims that when it comes to public speaking, he has “little experience” (Douglass). Douglass admits that topics concerning American history should be discussed with people who were educated through the school system instead of with a slave who has no educational background. He ultimately establishes trust with his audience by pursuing the True over maintaining his reputation.
Alcibiades admired Socrates like stated above. Socrates was found to have attraction and relations to teenage boys which was a contributing factor within his conviction. Alcibiades did not help with this. It was then later found that Alcibiades did in fact feel some shame in his
Thucydides tells that they had taken this story very much to heart (6.60.1) and it had a deep effect on the mood of Athenian political life. Believing that it was a statement against tyranny and for democracy, the story caused them to be fearful of anything involving tyranny and oligarchy. The fear that this story caused is what led to the massive paranoia surrounding the Herms and Mysteries. Alcibiades enemies used the accusation against him as a way to suggest he was conspiring against Athenian democracy. The Athenian misunderstanding of the history that led to their fear of tyrants is the same as their current misunderstanding of the truth in these trials.
Through self-control. In this dialogue, Socrates explicitly states that the skills used to take care of what belongs to our bodies such as ring-making, or weaving do not make any of us self-controlled. Furthermore, someone who takes care of his body is taking care of something that belongs to his soul, and not himself (Plato, 131c). What Socrates is trying to do in this dialogue is help Alcibiades by teaching him that gaining self-control is to know himself, and before delving into the realm of politics it would be wise to know yourself in order to be a good politician. When you know yourself you are in full control of your actions which will guide you towards what is right and keep you away from what is wrong.
The various ideologies of love mentioned by speakers in Plato’s Symposium portrayed the social and cultural aspect of ancient Greece. In the text, there were series of speeches given by Phaedrus, Pausanias, Eryximachus, Aristophanes, Socrates, and Agathon about the idea of love, specifically the effect and nature of Eros. Within the speakers, Agathon’s speech was exceptional in that his speech shifted the focus of the audience from effect of Eros on people, to the nature and gifts from the Eros. Despite Agathon’s exceptional remarks about Eros, Socrates challenged Agathon’s characterization of Eros through utilization of Socratic Method.
Therefore, since Athens has a part to play in corrupting Socrates’s life as well as his mistaken visual of the truth, Socrates must understand that by obeying the state, he has done injustice to his soul for it will not be in true harmony. Furthermore he will be doing an injustice to the state because Plato would have established that, objectively, Athens laws are unjust and even if Socrates thinks that they are just, it is only because Socrates has been corrupted by
“ Either I do not corrupt the young or, if I do, it is unwillingly, and you are lying in either case” (Apology 31) Socrates believes that if he presents a point to the
Socrates is quoted as stating, “An unexamined life is a life not worth living” (38 a). Socrates was a founding figure of western philosophy, and a stable for many ideas. He lived in Athens, Greece teaching his students, like Plato, questioning politics, ethical choices, and many other things in Greek society. In the Trial and death of Socrates: Four Dialogues by Plato, it explores the abstract questioning Socrates had towards many of the normal social properties, which led to his trial, resulting in his death. The most important aspects discussed in the dialogues is the questioning of what is pious and impious, what it means to be wise, and good life.
He claims that this is how he has been able to live a long life in Athens and that he never meant any harm to the state. Socrates believes that for
In order to establish my thesis, I will start by stating and explaining the argument that Socrates presents, I will
Socrates states in this quote that even though he was not to most people’s liking in Athens, he believed that he should put that thought aside and focus on the mission the
In the Apology Socrates defends himself against the charges brought against him by his prosecutor Meletus in two ways. In the first way Socrates describes his method and
In the reading of “Plato Apology”, Socrates’ vindicates what he values and beliefs to a jury to prove his innocence. Indeed, Miletus a poet, Anytus a craftsmen and Lycon a politician brought an oral charges against Socrates’ attested him of impiety and corrupting youth, required him to appear before the King Archon the legal
Making enemies and becoming the topic of conversation, the Athenians began to view Socrates as a threat to their beliefs and way of life and sought to end it. In order to end this, Socrates was accused of blasphemy (Mod1SlideC7). Socrates’s accusers took him to court and after Socrates did not play their game by asking to be sent into exile, and in the end, he was sentenced to death. After reading the textbook and Plato’s writing influenced by Socrates, I realized that in the period of his life Socrates was indeed truly a threat to the Athens society, because he looked for answers that no one else bothered to find which challenged their culture.
If we fail to acknowledge our hubris at the highest level, all of our society will suffer. We have given up our ability to evaluate life in favor of something far easier. For example, we choose to elect government officials who then act as tokens of our own values. This is the case in all republics be it Ancient Greece or the United States. By doing this we secure our fate and deny life itself.