He tries to prove that love is there because the gods were fighting and love was able to clear up the fighting. He does not prove that they stopped fighting because of love. Also, when he states that love leads us to wisdom, he does not show how it does. Agathon is talking about desire rather than really talking about what love is. I think this because desire is something you want while love is something that is something that you already have and will always have.
After, Socrates questions Agathon in regards his speech and exausht him. When Socrates is done questioning him, he finishes saying “Ah well, it was still a beautiful speech, Agathon” (Socrates, 45) stating that he still gives him some kind of love even thought he insulted him to some extent by giving his opinion of love. In my perspective, this conversation proves that love can be hate and love will be what we want it to be, therefore I believe there is no type of love among the philosophers, but rather they all share something in between like
In accordance with the previous statements, Plato unites the ideas of justice and equality by not accepting the societal norms of this time period. Equally important, Plato’s introduction of these forward-thinking ideas may have been the planting of a seed, in the sense that he induced thoughts about equality in his community. In understanding that there is not a correlation between one’s gender and one’s nature, equality is easier to attain in the just
Virtue is important when people consider their own characters: virtues are what defines a person, what they stand for, what they believe in. The argument made here is that virtue is a type of knowledge, as Plato states in Meno. In Meno, Socrates and Meno talk about how virtue is not a type of knowledge, up until they describe it. Socrates says, “If then virtue is something in the soul and it must be beneficial, it must be knowledge, since all the qualities of the soul are in themselves neither beneficial nor harmful, but accompanied by wisdom or folly they become harmful or beneficial.” (88c4-88d2)
What’s your opinion on the types of loves mentioned in the Pausanias’s part?” “I’m glad that they did it too, I agree your view that being mortality is not only about physical reproduction, but also mentally spreading out the wisdom. Also, I support the view of Pausanias’s part, there is no single form of love, just like Ren, there are no particular actions to show Ren, it depends on the attitude. Based on what I read, commonly love means people fall in love because of the physical aspect, their bodies instead of their minds and they are interested in the sexual act instead of intelligence (symposium, 181c). The other one is Heavenly love, people grow up and prepared, they are ready to be friends and a lifelong relationship and one of them being a mentor and leads them to achieve the wisdom and intelligence. I think wisdom is more important than physical aspect and I think chasing wisdom brings positive impact to whole society and
In other words, what specific characteristics of the pious/god-loved acts specifically makes the act pious/god-loved. The answer to this should be that the reason the act is pious will differ on a case to case basis such as they do to individual humans. One doesn’t love everything that they love for the same reason. Someone may love the beach because they find it beautiful and love their brother because of the connection that has been fostered between the two. This answer will not satisfy Socrates, promoting further questions of the underlying cause of the love.
Kenneth Clark has voiced his opinion that to be naked is to be in a vulnerable situation; unclothed and ashamed. His assessment of nudity is the body disrobed and embraced. Clark gathers that the nude has endured in Western art because man will always dream about the perfect female body and will seek, neverendingly, to create one to suit their need for sexual arousal. Clark believes the nude is not demeaning to women because it is an art form that depicts ideal beauty. To him, portraying the realistic or natural elements of a woman brings nothing but disappointment.
Despite her own developing feelings for him, Viola remains loyal to Orsino 's interests and attempts to fulfill her duties as his attendant. Although Viola was born a noblewoman and her societal role was to be told what to do by an authoritative male figure, she successfully break the barriers that Elizabethan society had forced upon her sex. Viola disregards the proper roles society has placed on the female sex; therefore, she crossdresses, and removes all restraints, and becomes a liberated individual. Viola finds such liberation by dressing as a man, as well as showing characteristics of a man in her actions. The uncertainty of Viola/Cesario 's sexual identity, however, show that masculinity and femininity are just aspects of a role.
When he was given a choice between long, uneventful, but happy life and forthcoming, but glorious death on the battlefield, he chose the latter, preferring eternal fame to family life. The theme of kleos can be explained by the hero cult, which was widely popular during Classical times. Heroes were a major component of Greek religion and of equal importance as gods, but their attraction consisted in the fact that they were local and therefore more exclusive than the gods. They were important to the Greeks as they were closer to humans than gods, and helped define the limits of human aspirations, acting as symbols for all of the qualities humans wished to possess and dreams they wished to realise. Depiction of a hero in the Iliad differs from Troy.
Currently, virtue is the true beauty and physical beauty is only a “shade” of virtue. This quatrain also discusses the mortality of the physical body. The last couplet then finally reveals the turn, that though the speaker is educated in the meaning of love, he “must” love Stella for her physical
There is no wrong answer to that question. Love is the thing that somebody accepts it will be. My definition of love is a feeling that is not easily describable. It 's not only powerful, but eternal to. Ann Lander thinks "Love is friendship that has caught fire.
I am saying that “human beings are more than merely physical beings.” In Plato’s dialogues Phaedo and Meno “Theory of Recollection”, I began to understand that the soul carries innate knowledge. In Meno, the way that Socrates is able to prove this is by showing how a slave boy seems to have the ability to understand basic geometric principles. Socrates then concludes that the slave boy’s soul possessed the knowledge of geometry the whole time. From this, you could say that Plato hold’s deductive reasoning within ourselves that we have no business knowing, and that they must have been carried from a previous existence. Plato’s theology involves some kind of reincarnation.
Within Little Souls, Nicole Zefanya describes the growth of a curious and passionate child into a bland, indistinguishable adult who fails to find “home”. She attributes the assimilation of adults into a “black and white” world to the increase in their social duties, which cause their priorities to change. Zefanya claims that these adults age to forget their own identities and fail to define unique purposes because suddenly, all that matters is what is simple and comfortable. Zefanya attempts to reveal the nature of these adults as being physical “houses” with negligible souls that fail to transform them into “homes”. Despite this, she ends the song with a stroke of optimism, claiming that the death of the body can result in the life of the soul.
CLAS 1110 Second Paper Assignment JoAnn Luhrs Spring 2017 Socrates was viewed by many people in Athens as insane. Two writers dedicated their plays to share their opinions about Socrates with an audience. Aristophane wrote a play called Clouds and another writer, Plato wrote a play called Apology. Both plays made fun of Socrates belief system and character. Aristophanes wrote how Socrates theories were ridiculous and Plato made Socrates to disagree with Athenians opinion about him.
The differences between Greece in the time of Hesiod and Greece in the time of Plato are both immense and minute. On the one hand, Archaic Greece (Hesiod) was very much about the gods and religion whereas the Hellenistic Period (Plato) was more about philosophy and politics. On the other hand, Hesiod and Plato’s worlds are not that different. They both believe in the same gods, the same origin of the universe, and they operate in the same hemisphere in terms of belief and way of life. One important difference to note is the difference of their views toward gender and women.