In Book 1 of Homer’s Iliad, there is a conflict between Agamemnon and Achilles that later has severe consequences for both the Trojans and Greek armies. Agamemnon and Achilles both have a lack of respect towards each other but if I were a Greek soldier, I would side with Agamemnon. It was wrong of Agamemnon to disrespect Achilles by taking away his prize but it is also wrong of Achilles to lash out to Agamemnon because Agamemnon is the leader. Also, by Achilles deciding to no longer fight in the war he basically sentences the other Greek soldiers to death. It is true that Agamemnon is not the best leader; his pride and foolishness causes many Greeks to die when he dishonors the priest of Apollo. Agamemnon speaks cruelly to the old man, …show more content…
The plagues that falls on the Greek army are the result of Agamemnon’s ignorance. He did not know that his actions would have the consequences that they did but once he’s told by Calchas how to get rid of the plagues, he does as Calchas says, although it took some convincing. Same as when he sacrificed his daughter Iphigenia. Achilles, however, knowingly dooms the Greek army. Achilles asks his mother Thetis to call in a debt that Zeus owes her. Thetis does so, “’Do justice by him [Achilles], Lord of Olympus./ Give the Trojans the upper hand until the Greeks/ Grant my son the honor he deserves.’” (1. 539-541) and this will later lead to many Greek soldiers dying. Achilles purposely curses the Greek army and that’s traitorous. Agamemnon did cause many soldiers to die but he did it unknowingly while Achilles is doing it on purpose. This makes Achilles a traitor. Achilles is trying to punish the whole Greek army just because of what Agamemnon does and that is not right. Many of the soldiers are Achilles’ friends, such as Patroclus, and just because his pride is temporarily taken away, he shouldn’t take it out on the army. This is another reason as to why I, as a Greek soldier, side with
(Beowulf, 51). Unlike Beowulf, Achilles doesn’t like to lose men for war. He claims he doesn’t like war and it doesn’t want to put his men before him. The trait about feelings of soldiers is completely different between both of these
Misopeliades tell the men that he thinks it’s a bad idea for Achilles to go and fight in war because he never does anything right. Misopeliades feels Achilles will only make things worse than what they are already. Misopeliades thinks he is only thinking of going to the war because he wants to be seen as respected by his people. The whole war wouldn’t be as bad if Achilles didn’t become so enraged over such a little situation.
He was wronged by Agamemnon by taking his biggest plundered from when he sacked the city, Breseis. Agamemnon shouldn't take what isn't his, that wasn't the right thing to do in that situation. Agamemnon was being selfish in the plundering of a city and took what Achilles got. More to boot, none of this stuff would've happened if Agamemnon would've accepted the Oracle of Apollo's offer. So all this came by Agamemnon.
Achilles and Hector in The Iliad and Medea and Jason Medea all have characteristics that eventually led to their downfall. Achilles is a furious man, and it leads him to do unspeakable things. Hector is very prideful, and it clouds his judgement. In Medea, Medea is revengeful, and all she thinks about his getting revenge. Jason is insensitive, and it cost him his family.
Agamemnon’s taking of Briseis enrages Achilles and spurs him to remove himself from the war, leading to a massive death toll in the Achaean forces. In stealing Briseis from Achilles, he is not only robbing of him of a material prize, but also a symbol of honor, his geras, in Greek culture. In retaliation, Achilles removes himself from the war and prays to his mother, Thetis, that she will ask Zeus to damage the Achaean forces. Achilles’ only goal is that “even mighty Atrides can see how mad he was to disgrace Achilles” (1.488-490). Despite having no true grievance against the Achaean army as a whole, Achilles’ rage blinds him from the potential harm that may befall his troops.
Patroclus, Achilles’s friend and servant, came to him and begged him to fight and, if he would not, he asked if he could wear Achilles’s armor into battle. Patroclus hoped that by wearing the armor, he could fool both the Greeks and the Trojans into believing that Achilles had returned to the battle-mass, turning the tide of the war. Achilles agreed on one condition: Patroclus must come back as soon as he successfully forced the Trojans away from the black ships. Patroclus didn’t listen, so he died at the hand of Hector.
Achilles is maddened and appeals to his goddess mother saying, “If I am to die soon, shouldn’t I have what I want?” Feeling only sorrow for her son, Thetis requests Zeus to cause to Greeks to lose until Achilles fights again. Slowly the Greeks are pushed back farther and Agamemnon pleads with Achilles, offering Briseis back. Achilles declines due to his pride and the Trojans come close to burn the Greek ships. Even when a ship was burning, Achilles refused to fight and instead sends out Patroclus.
He remained headstrong, stubborn and selfish in his actions, even warranting rebuke from the men on certain occasions. This is seen in the very first conflict that is witnessed on the pages of The Iliad. Agamemnon is faced with the request to give up his war prize, and immediately and indignantly decides against all the council of the army in order to keep his prize of a woman (28). With this decision, he sought his own desires selfishly and disconnected himself from the men he was meant to lead. Granted, he possessed a strong will, a thing very necessary for good leadership.
Before pushing Adestrus, Agamemnon criticizes him harshly and then it states, “...with these words, by this appeal to justice, he changed his brother’s mind. So Menelaus shoved heroic Adestrus.” (Homer 73-75). Agamemnon called Melelaus “soft-hearted” and said, “Let no one escape. Let everyone in Troy be slaughtered,without pity, without leaving any trace.
In Greek culture, honor was immensely important and the Cyclops has none. In contrast, Odysseus brags about the great feats of Agamemnon yelling, “So great a city he sacked, such multitudes he killed”(9.298-299) That Odysseus sees pride in killing, shows that the Greeks valued killing, but only if honorable. There is a stark contrast between the killings of the Cyclops and those of King Agamemnon. In the eyes of the Greeks, Agamemnon’s killings were for his country, his people, and the greater good of society. These murders had a selfless purpose.
His only redemption after this section is the fact that he allowed Hector’s parents to give him money in exchange for their son’s corpse so that he could be properly buried and sent off to Hades. All of this violence, especially the parts towards the already dead person, was not even acceptable towards the Greek. The comparison would be that with this level of brutality, most modern-day people would view Achilles more as a villain than a hero after this. His actions here provide no redemption in modern
In the Iliad, Achilles is responding to Odysseus’s speech attempting to convince him to return to the war. Achilles’ main argument against returning is his incalculable rage against Agamemnon for “the prize of honor / The warlord Agamemnon gave me / And in his insulting arrogance took back” which is not only an insult to Achilles’ status, but also to his honor as a warrior (Il. 9.378-379). In addition to focusing on the main argument of Achilles’ speech, it is worth noting the contradictions present within his speech as well.
If Achilles was angry but not hospitable the scene would have played out much differently. When Achilles is angry but not hospitable, like in the original fight between him and Agamemnon which
Achilles’ anger has lead to him committing cruel behavior; a large majority of the horrific violence within Homer’s story, comes from Achilles’ relentless rage. But is his rage truly without proper cause and justification? King Agamemnon forced Achilles’ to hand over his beloved Briseis to him, which caused Achilles to withdraw his men from the Achaean army. Achilles’ closest
They fight over the two girls. Later Achilles threatens to quit the war since he has nothing against the Trojans. He says that he only fights because Agemenom tells him too. King Agamemnon answered: Indeed, sir all that you say is fair and right. But this man wishes to be above all to rule everyone, to be King over everyone to order everyone-