After speaking with Cephalus about justice, Socrates moves on to speak with his son, Polemarchus. Initially, Polemarchus’ definition is similar to that of his father’s. Polemarchus believes that justice means that you should help friends, and harm enemies. Knowing Socrates, he clearly was not going to willingly accept this definition; there are always exceptions.
Throughout Book II and Book III, Socrates argues repeatedly for the censorship of art, music, and stories. However, this censorship seems to be only in effect over the guardians rather than the general population. The commencement of the conversation about education and censorship illustrates this point with Socrates asking, “but how are we to bring [the guardians] up and educate [them]” (376c). Here, Socrates sets up the discussion that follows to be one pertaining to the education of the guardian class of Kallipolis specifically and not the rest of the population. Socrates expresses that, “[they] want the guardians of [their] city to think that it’s shameful to be easily provoked into hating one another,” so they, “mustn’t allow any stories about gods warring, fighting, or plotting against one another” (378b-c).
Plato is writing down Socrates defense and the responses of his accusers. The question here is, why did Plato write Apology? Plato was one of Socrates’ followers he believed that Socrates was wise and he would turn this event into a testimony of the injustice done to Socrates and the wit of the man he had learned so much from. This book would show
I believe that Socrates had a stronger argument. This is because though Socrates claims to know nothing for each statement that Thrasymachus tries to create Socrates has a rebuttal for it. In the very beginning I was on the side of Thrasymachus when he said that justice is to the advantage of the ruler and lawmaker and to the disadvantage of the subjects. After his expansion on what he believed though I was no longer on his side.
Writing received a lot of criticism, especially from Socrates, a Greek philosopher. According to Socrates writing was mnemonic and not interactive. Socrates claims “the ultimate effect of writing will be to weaken memory, not strengthen it” (842). According to Baron “we remember this because Plato wrote it down” (842). Socrates views are very disputable since he claims that writing will weaken the memory, yet we know about him because his student Plato wrote it down.
Socrates views on Justice and Injustice In Plato 's The Republic, he sets out to inform the readers the theories of Socrates based on the topic of justice. He explains of what Socrates believes to be justice and why should we be just. This philosopher points out that it is better to suffer injustice then to do injustice. However, others disagree with Socrates.
Because Teiresias didn’t satisfy his curiousity, Oedipus kept seeking the murderer and neglected several hints that he is the person that he himself tried to punish, although he also scared that Teireias’ prophecy on him was right therefore Indirectly, Teiresias intended to let Oedipus to seek the truth on his won rather than to harm Oedipus pride as a king by gave him the truth at that time. Once again Teiresias gave Oedipus his prevision [page 57, right column, line 37] and to be later proven to be true [page 67, right column, line 55] as a hint that no body can escape from his own
This was a real cause for people to associate Socrates with being a sophist and perpetuated people to falsely believe that Socrates was actually a sophist who questioned and corrupted the minds of the youth. The unfair association of Socrates being a sophist thereby led to his trial because people were afraid of his methods of questioning because it would cause the youth to lose confidence in the political system of Athens. Socrates, however, defends himself against Meletus, one of his accusers, in ‘The apology’ saying that he was not a sophist: ”if you had heard anyone say that I try to educate people and charge a fee, there is no truth in that” (19E). He did not charge people, but due to old rumours and the play ‘Clouds’ it had led to his conviction because his ways of questioning the Athenian polis was a threat not only to the aristocratic ruling party’s power and status but also a threat to the social stability of Athens both at that time and possibly even in future. This is summed up by Protagoras, an Ancient Greek philosopher, who examines that “It would be wrong to use violence to try to overthrow the laws but a wise sophist might by skilful argument persuade a city to change its
Euthyphro replied “What is agreeable to the Gods is holy, and what is not agreeable is unholy” (Plato 16). [This quote implies if the Gods agree on anything that is right than it consider holy, and if it not right than it is unholy.] [The answer confused Socrates, therefore Socrates mentions that the God’s quarrel with one another on issue causing the Gods to go to war.] A reference was then made by Euthyphro from Zeus and Cronus. Zeus action was approved by himself, but disapproved by his father,
New accusers say that Socrates corrupts the youth and does not believe in the gods of the State, and has new divinities of his own. To defend himself against these charges, Socrates asks Meletus some questions. As a result, Meletus is shown to be contradicting himself and making accusations that are absolutely absurd. To the question “Who are the improvers of the youth?” Meletus replies that they are all citizens, but not Socrates, arguing that he is only one who is corrupting them.
What is perhaps most unconventional about this rhetoric style defense is that it is exactly that, a defense –not an apology. It does not mean an "apology" by our current, English understanding of the word. The name of the dialogue derives from the Greek "apologia," which translates to “defense”, or a speech made in defense. Plato’s The Apology accounts for Socrates’ defense at a trial which he is charged with not recognizing the Gods, therefore creating new deities and corrupting the minds of the youth in Athens.
Tristan Courtney AP Lang Mr. Sontum 2/19/15 Apology of Socrates Rhetorical Analysis The Apology of Socrates has many rhetorical devices and he uses each of them to appeal to ethos, logos, and pathos. He uses these to defend himself against the ridiculous accusation of not believing in the gods recognized by the state and also of corrupting the youth in Athens, and also to prove that their acquittal or absolution does nothing to him.
Anish Yonjan Philosophy 1301-73426 Prof. Marcos Arandia Feb. 19, 2017 Explain and evaluate Socrates' claim in the Apology that "the unexamined life is not worth living for a human being," and briefly analyze and discuss the particular method he uses to discover the truth (i.e., dialectics or the Socratic Method), using at least two examples from Plato's Euthyphro and/or Apology. Do you agree that a human being cannot live a fully satisfying life if he or she remains ignorant, like the slavish prisoners in Plato's cave? Why or why not? In the Plato’s Apology, Socrates claims that the “unexamined life is not worth living for a human being”.
Socrates defended himself well during the trial. I do not think that Socrates was guilty for anything. He was accused by Meletus for "corrupting the young”. However, there was no evidence of this. Socrates mentioned that there was no youth to testify that they were corrupted by him.
Socrates presents himself in front of the jury to defend him on account of four charges. He has many accusers. The three old accusers are Meletus, Anytus, and Lycon. The new accusers charge Socrates for giving rational reasons for the phenomenon that is considered to be creations of the gods and for making a weaker argument trump a strong one: moral corruption. They accuse Socrates because he teaches other people to follow his ways.